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Sometimes, due to the draft rules at the time, or the passing interests of recruiters and even a strong difference in opinion as to the quality of a young son, the Father/Son link is broken. Carlton has enjoyed and suffered in both respects; we've lost sons to opposition Clubs, and gained sons of opposition Champs and lesser lights. The first table tracks the sons lost to opposition Clubs: | Sometimes, due to the draft rules at the time, or the passing interests of recruiters and even a strong difference in opinion as to the quality of a young son, the Father/Son link is broken. Carlton has enjoyed and suffered in both respects; we've lost sons to opposition Clubs, and gained sons of opposition Champs and lesser lights. The first table tracks the sons lost to opposition Clubs: | ||
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<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="background-color:silver"><tr><td><b>Father</b></td> | <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="background-color:silver"><tr><td><b>Father</b></td> | ||
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<td>John Atkinson</td> | <td>John Atkinson</td> | ||
<td>Fitzroy</td> | <td>Fitzroy</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Jack Baker]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Jack Baker]]</td> | ||
<td>147 approx</td> | <td>147 approx</td> | ||
<td>Jack Baker</td> | <td>Jack Baker</td> | ||
<td>Geelong</td> | <td>Geelong</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Terry Bartel]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Terry Bartel]]</td> | ||
<td> Nil </td> | <td> Nil </td> | ||
<td> James Bartel (Brownlow Medalist) </td> | <td> James Bartel (Brownlow Medalist) </td> | ||
<td>Geelong</td> | <td>Geelong</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Edric Bickford]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Edric Bickford]]</td> | ||
<td>21</td> | <td>21</td> | ||
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<td>Jim Board</td> | <td>Jim Board</td> | ||
<td>Collingwood</td> | <td>Collingwood</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Gerard Butts]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Gerard Butts]]</td> | ||
<td>3</td> | <td>3</td> | ||
<td>Jordon Butts * </td> | <td>Jordon Butts * </td> | ||
<td>Adelaide</td> | <td>Adelaide</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Bill Carmody]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Bill Carmody]]</td> | ||
<td>1</td> | <td>1</td> | ||
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<td>Brett Deledio </td> | <td>Brett Deledio </td> | ||
<td>Richmond / GWS Giants </td> | <td>Richmond / GWS Giants </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Alf Egan]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Alf Egan]]</td> | ||
<td>36</td> | <td>36</td> | ||
<td>Ted Lovett </td> | <td>Ted Lovett </td> | ||
<td>Fitzroy</td> | <td>Fitzroy</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Martin Gotz]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Martin Gotz]]</td> | ||
<td>106</td> | <td>106</td> | ||
<td>Bruce Gotz</td> | <td>Bruce Gotz</td> | ||
<td>St Kilda</td> | <td>St Kilda</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Trent Hotton]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Trent Hotton]]</td> | ||
<td>61</td> | <td>61</td> | ||
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<td> Taj Hotton * </td> | <td> Taj Hotton * </td> | ||
<td> Richmond </td> | <td> Richmond </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Ken Hunter]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Ken Hunter]]</td> | ||
<td>147</td> | <td>147</td> | ||
<td>Cameron Hunter</td> | <td>Cameron Hunter</td> | ||
<td>Melbourne</td> | <td>Melbourne</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[John Hynes]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[John Hynes]]</td> | ||
<td>4</td> | <td>4</td> | ||
<td> Cooper Hynes * </td> | <td> Cooper Hynes * </td> | ||
<td> Western Bulldogs </td> | <td> Western Bulldogs </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Steve Leehane]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Steve Leehane]]</td> | ||
<td>82</td> | <td>82</td> | ||
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<td>Reece McKenzie</td> | <td>Reece McKenzie</td> | ||
<td>Richmond</td> | <td>Richmond</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Michael Nash]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Michael Nash]]</td> | ||
<td>Unknown</td> | <td>Unknown</td> | ||
<td>Robert H. Nash</td> | <td>Robert H. Nash</td> | ||
<td>Collingwood</td> | <td>Collingwood</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Stephen O'Reilly]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Stephen O'Reilly]]</td> | ||
<td>12</td> | <td>12</td> | ||
<td> Dillon O'Reilly </td> | <td> Dillon O'Reilly </td> | ||
<td> Fremantle Dockers </td> | <td> Fremantle Dockers </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Jim Pender]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Jim Pender]]</td> | ||
<td>15</td> | <td>15</td> | ||
<td>Jim M Pender</td> | <td>Jim M Pender</td> | ||
<td>Geelong</td> | <td>Geelong</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Frank Pritchard]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Frank Pritchard]]</td> | ||
<td>20</td> | <td>20</td> | ||
<td>Bill Pritchard</td> | <td>Bill Pritchard</td> | ||
<td>Geelong</td> | <td>Geelong</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Dean Rice]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Dean Rice]]</td> | ||
<td>118</td> | <td>118</td> | ||
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<td>Sam Sheldon</td> | <td>Sam Sheldon</td> | ||
<td>Brisbane Lions</td> | <td>Brisbane Lions</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Paul Williams]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Paul Williams]]</td> | ||
<td> Nil </td> | <td> Nil </td> | ||
<td> Bailey Williams </td> | <td> Bailey Williams </td> | ||
<td> West Coast Eagles </td> | <td> West Coast Eagles </td> | ||
</tr></table></center> | </tr></table></center> | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
In the second table, we note where the Blues have enjoyed the fruit of someone else's loins:<br> | In the second table, we note where the Blues have enjoyed the fruit of someone else's loins:<br> | ||
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<td> Terry de Koning </td> | <td> Terry de Koning </td> | ||
<td> Footscray </td> | <td> Footscray </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Matthew Dickson]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Matthew Dickson]]</td> | ||
<td> Nil </td> | <td> Nil </td> | ||
<td> Des Dickson </td> | <td> Des Dickson </td> | ||
<td> Hawthorn </td> | <td> Hawthorn </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Steve Easton]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Steve Easton]]</td> | ||
<td>1</td> | <td>1</td> | ||
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<td>Charlie Hardy</td> | <td>Charlie Hardy</td> | ||
<td>Nth Melbourne / Essendon</td> | <td>Nth Melbourne / Essendon</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Elijah Hollands]] * </td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Elijah Hollands]] * </td> | ||
<td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally</td> | <td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally</td> | ||
<td> Ben Hollands </td> | <td> Ben Hollands </td> | ||
<td> Richmond </td> | <td> Richmond </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Oliver Hollands]] * </td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Oliver Hollands]] * </td> | ||
<td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally</td> | <td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally</td> | ||
<td> Ben Hollands </td> | <td> Ben Hollands </td> | ||
<td> Richmond </td> | <td> Richmond </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Jack Howell]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Jack Howell]]</td> | ||
<td>137</td> | <td>137</td> | ||
<td>Jack P Howell</td> | <td>Jack P Howell</td> | ||
<td>South Melbourne</td> | <td>South Melbourne</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Chris Johnson]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Chris Johnson]]</td> | ||
<td>15</td> | <td>15</td> | ||
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<td> Andrew McGovern * </td> | <td> Andrew McGovern * </td> | ||
<td>Sydney Swans / Fremantle</td> | <td>Sydney Swans / Fremantle</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Mick Martyn]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Mick Martyn]]</td> | ||
<td>13</td> | <td>13</td> | ||
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<td>George Morrissey Snr</td> | <td>George Morrissey Snr</td> | ||
<td>St Kilda</td> | <td>St Kilda</td> | ||
<tr><td>[[Jesse Motlop]] *</td> | <tr><td>[[Jesse Motlop]] *</td> | ||
<td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally </td> | <td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally </td> | ||
<td> Daniel Motlop </td> | <td> Daniel Motlop </td> | ||
<td>Nth Melbourne / Port Power </td> | <td>Nth Melbourne / Port Power </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Marc Murphy]] </td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Marc Murphy]] </td> | ||
<td > 300 </td> | <td > 300 </td> | ||
<td>John Murphy</td> | <td>John Murphy</td> | ||
<td>Fitzroy / Sth Melb / Nth Melb</td> | <td>Fitzroy / Sth Melb / Nth Melb</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Fraser Phillips]] </td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Fraser Phillips]] </td> | ||
<td> Nil </td> | <td> Nil </td> | ||
<td> Garry Phillips </td> | <td> Garry Phillips </td> | ||
<td> Geelong </td> | <td> Geelong </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Alan Rayson]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Alan Rayson]]</td> | ||
<td>2</td> | <td>2</td> | ||
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<td>Bruce Reid Senior</td> | <td>Bruce Reid Senior</td> | ||
<td>Footscray</td> | <td>Footscray</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Dave Rogers]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Dave Rogers]]</td> | ||
<td>7</td> | <td>7</td> | ||
<td>Joe Rogers</td> | <td>Joe Rogers</td> | ||
<td>North Melbourne</td> | <td>North Melbourne</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Billie Smedts]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Billie Smedts]]</td> | ||
<td> 9 </td> | <td> 9 </td> | ||
<td>Alby Smedts</td> | <td>Alby Smedts</td> | ||
<td>Footscray / St Kilda</td> | <td>Footscray / St Kilda</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Jagga Smith]] * </td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Jagga Smith]] * </td> | ||
<td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally </td> | <td> Refer to players Bio for current games tally </td> | ||
<td> Michael Smith </td> | <td> Michael Smith </td> | ||
<td> Collingwood Reserves </td> | <td> Collingwood Reserves </td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Peter Smith]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Peter Smith]]</td> | ||
<td>15</td> | <td>15</td> | ||
<td>Norm Smith</td> | <td>Norm Smith</td> | ||
<td>Melbourne</td> | <td>Melbourne</td> | ||
</tr><tr><td>[[Tom Temay]]</td> | </tr><tr><td>[[Tom Temay]]</td> | ||
<td>Nil</td> | <td>Nil</td> | ||
Revision as of 12:50, 30 December 2025
Sometimes, due to the draft rules at the time, or the passing interests of recruiters and even a strong difference in opinion as to the quality of a young son, the Father/Son link is broken. Carlton has enjoyed and suffered in both respects; we've lost sons to opposition Clubs, and gained sons of opposition Champs and lesser lights. The first table tracks the sons lost to opposition Clubs:
| Father | Games Played | Son | Club |
| Bob Atkinson | 44 | John Atkinson | Fitzroy |
| Jack Baker | 147 approx | Jack Baker | Geelong |
| Terry Bartel | Nil | James Bartel (Brownlow Medalist) | Geelong |
| Edric Bickford | 21 | George Bickford | Melbourne |
| Terry Board | 41 | Terry M Board | Fitzroy |
| 41 | Jim Board | Collingwood | |
| Gerard Butts | 3 | Jordon Butts * | Adelaide |
| Bill Carmody | 1 | Bill J. Carmody | St. Kilda |
| David Clarke | 9 | Tim Clarke | Hawthorn |
| Brent Crosswell | 98 | Tom Kavanagh | Melbourne/Fitzroy |
| Craig Davis | 42 | Nick Davis | Collingwood/Sydney |
| Wayne Deledio | 1 | Brett Deledio | Richmond / GWS Giants |
| Alf Egan | 36 | Ted Lovett | Fitzroy |
| Martin Gotz | 106 | Bruce Gotz | St Kilda |
| Trent Hotton | 61 | Olli Hotton | St Kilda |
| Taj Hotton * | Richmond | ||
| Ken Hunter | 147 | Cameron Hunter | Melbourne |
| John Hynes | 4 | Cooper Hynes * | Western Bulldogs |
| Steve Leehane | 82 | Ted Leehane | Essendon |
| John Lloyd | 29 | Brad Lloyd | Hawthorn |
| 29 | Matthew Lloyd | Essendon | |
| Barry Mitchell | 38 | Tom Mitchell * | Sydney Swans / Hawthorn / Collingwood |
| Warren McKenzie | 67 | Reece McKenzie | Richmond |
| Michael Nash | Unknown | Robert H. Nash | Collingwood |
| Stephen O'Reilly | 12 | Dillon O'Reilly | Fremantle Dockers |
| Jim Pender | 15 | Jim M Pender | Geelong |
| Frank Pritchard | 20 | Bill Pritchard | Geelong |
| Dean Rice | 118 | Bailey Rice | St Kilda |
| Brett Sholl | 35 | Lachlan Sholl * | Adelaide Crows |
| Tony Thiessen | 13 | James Thiessen | Richmond/Adelaide |
| Bruce Reid | 33 | Ben Reid | Collingwood |
| 33 | Sam Reid | Sydney | |
| Ken Sheldon | 132 | Sam Sheldon | Brisbane Lions |
| Paul Williams | Nil | Bailey Williams | West Coast Eagles |
In the second table, we note where the Blues have enjoyed the fruit of someone else's loins:
| Son | Games Played | Father | Club |
| Ron Barassi | 50 | Ronald J Barassi | Melbourne |
| Peter Bedford | 8 | Bill Bedford | Fitzroy |
| Bruce Bentley | 1 | Perc Bentley | Richmond |
| Josh Bootsma | 14 | Brad Bootsma | Fremantle |
| Brian Buckley | 116 | Jack Buckley | Fitzroy |
| Chris Cameron | 5 | Bill Cameron | St Kilda |
| Blake Campbell | 11 | Des Campbell | Melbourne |
| Cameron Cloke | 36 | David Cloke | Collingwood / Richmond |
| Denis Collins | 30 | Jack Cecil Collins | Fitzroy/Essendon |
| Bruce Comben | 188 | Aubrey Comben | Geelong |
| John Comben | 38 | Aubrey Comben | Geelong |
| Sam Cranage | 10 | Paul Cranage | Collingwood |
| Frazer Dale | 2 | Andrew Dale | Melbourne |
| Tom de Koning | 100 | Terry de Koning | Footscray |
| Matthew Dickson | Nil | Des Dickson | Hawthorn |
| Steve Easton | 1 | Kevin Easton | North Melbourne |
| Jake Edwards | 5 | Allan 'Butch' Edwards | Footscray, Richmond, Collingwood |
| Tom Fields | 2 | Neville Fields | Essendon / Sth Melbourne |
| Jayden Foster | Nil | Peter Foster | Fitzroy / Footscray |
| Billy Gowers | Nil | Andrew Gowers | Hawthorn / Brisbane Lions |
| Danny Halloran | 15 | Frank Halloran | Melbourne & Footscray |
| Jack Hardy | 4 | Charlie Hardy | Nth Melbourne / Essendon |
| Elijah Hollands * | Refer to players Bio for current games tally | Ben Hollands | Richmond |
| Oliver Hollands * | Refer to players Bio for current games tally | Ben Hollands | Richmond |
| Jack Howell | 137 | Jack P Howell | South Melbourne |
| Chris Johnson | 15 | Alan Johnson | Melbourne |
| Liam Jones | 95 | Bob Jones | St Kilda |
| Kane Lucas | 42 | Jack Lucas | Sydney Swans |
| Mitch McGovern * | Refer to players Bio for current games tally | Andrew McGovern * | Sydney Swans / Fremantle |
| Mick Martyn | 13 | Bryan Martyn | North Melbourne |
| Andrew Merrington | 18 | Gary Merrington | Footscray |
| George Morrissey | 9 | George Morrissey Snr | St Kilda |
| Jesse Motlop * | Refer to players Bio for current games tally | Daniel Motlop | Nth Melbourne / Port Power |
| Marc Murphy | 300 | John Murphy | Fitzroy / Sth Melb / Nth Melb |
| Fraser Phillips | Nil | Garry Phillips | Geelong |
| Alan Rayson | 2 | Arthur Rayson | Geelong |
| Bruce Reid | 33 | Bruce Reid Senior | Footscray |
| Dave Rogers | 7 | Joe Rogers | North Melbourne |
| Billie Smedts | 9 | Alby Smedts | Footscray / St Kilda |
| Jagga Smith * | Refer to players Bio for current games tally | Michael Smith | Collingwood Reserves |
| Peter Smith | 15 | Norm Smith | Melbourne |
| Tom Temay | Nil | Paul Temay | St Kilda |
| Rohan Welsh | 42 | John Welsh | Essendon |
NB * denotes current player.
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